Comments on: Jill Freedman http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/27/jill-freedman/ A wide-open view of the practice of street photography by Michael David Murphy, While Seated. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:42:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: BryanF http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/27/jill-freedman/#comment-57373 BryanF Tue, 06 May 2008 23:53:46 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=349#comment-57373 good stuff chuck! photography on the web needs editors and curators! same is true for all user generated content, which is a term i don't like. everyone is sharing, sharing, sharing. but not many people are interested in editing and curating the sea of content we find ourselves in. i think there's tremendous opportunities to do interesting things in this area... good stuff chuck!

photography on the web needs editors and curators! same is true for all user generated content, which is a term i don’t like.

everyone is sharing, sharing, sharing. but not many people are interested in editing and curating the sea of content we find ourselves in. i think there’s tremendous opportunities to do interesting things in this area…

]]> By: Chuck http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/27/jill-freedman/#comment-56651 Chuck Fri, 02 May 2008 15:11:01 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=349#comment-56651 The Freedman article and video are in many ways the perfect foil for the Flickr piece, which has this implicit smugness about how low-brow it all is on Flickr, ignoring that almost all popular art has been low-brow. I don't think Freedman's descent had jack to do with the change in New York. What the Freedman piece hinted at is that when the gallery scene reached dominance in the late 70's, early 80's, there was, simultaneously, no room for documentary photography of the sort that she was producing and no place for someone not good at self-promotion. As much as I like a great deal of current gallery-oriented photography the truth is that the penchant for large format, setups and themes has everything to do with what the art scene and the university art program demands. A more honest article about Flickr (and photoblogs and news blogs and anything else on the web that uses photography and video) would point out the way that it is grabbing the baton away from the current establishment of galleries, art schools and museums and we really don't know where we'll come out at the other end. There's certainly plenty of amazingly good photography lying in the festering garbage heap of Flickr, which is precisely what makes it so interesting. See also: the recording industry... The Freedman article and video are in many ways the perfect foil for the Flickr piece, which has this implicit smugness about how low-brow it all is on Flickr, ignoring that almost all popular art has been low-brow. I don’t think Freedman’s descent had jack to do with the change in New York. What the Freedman piece hinted at is that when the gallery scene reached dominance in the late 70’s, early 80’s, there was, simultaneously, no room for documentary photography of the sort that she was producing and no place for someone not good at self-promotion. As much as I like a great deal of current gallery-oriented photography the truth is that the penchant for large format, setups and themes has everything to do with what the art scene and the university art program demands. A more honest article about Flickr (and photoblogs and news blogs and anything else on the web that uses photography and video) would point out the way that it is grabbing the baton away from the current establishment of galleries, art schools and museums and we really don’t know where we’ll come out at the other end. There’s certainly plenty of amazingly good photography lying in the festering garbage heap of Flickr, which is precisely what makes it so interesting. See also: the recording industry…

]]> By: matt http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/27/jill-freedman/#comment-55913 matt Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:05:32 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=349#comment-55913 I think "Street Cops" is a great book! Really captures a side of New York that was unseen to most. I bought Circus, Firehouse and Resurrection City as well. I was in awe of all the risks that she took back then, and was very sorry to learn of all the bad times she went through. She's a quintessential New Yorker and I think lots of good things will happen for her soon... I think “Street Cops” is a great book! Really captures a side of
New York that was unseen to most. I bought Circus, Firehouse
and Resurrection City as well. I was in awe of all the risks that
she took back then, and was very sorry to learn of all the bad
times she went through. She’s a quintessential New Yorker and
I think lots of good things will happen for her soon…

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