Comments on: Joel Meyerowitz, For The Win! http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/ A wide-open view of the practice of street photography by Michael David Murphy, While Seated. Wed, 22 May 2013 23:45:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Dirk http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-56528 Dirk Fri, 02 May 2008 03:23:43 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-56528 The European understanding and relevance of concept is just totally different from the pragmatic American approach to the medium. Asia is once again different. It seems pretty ignorant to slam it so bluntly. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it is bad (does not necessarily mean the reverse either of course). The European understanding and relevance of concept is just totally different from the pragmatic American approach to the medium. Asia is once again different. It seems pretty ignorant to slam it so bluntly. Just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it is bad (does not necessarily mean the reverse either of course).

]]> By: olivier laude http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-54989 olivier laude Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:31:14 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-54989 That made my day. Now, when will "they" finally come to their senses. That's what I am afraid of.....How long will we have to suffer the injustices of the bores..... That made my day. Now, when will “they” finally come to their senses. That’s what I am afraid of…..How long will we have to suffer the injustices of the bores…..

]]> By: Fergus http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53916 Fergus Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:07:03 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53916 Man that is refreshing to read! Man that is refreshing to read!

]]> By: Joni Karanka http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53871 Joni Karanka Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:31:40 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53871 Boring and sterile. Lots of hard work to look all the same and/or please others. There are exceptions of course. I like the conceptual stuff of Sophie Calle, it's cheeky and fun (like following a stranger around for a few days, i.e.). Boring and sterile. Lots of hard work to look all the same and/or please others. There are exceptions of course. I like the conceptual stuff of Sophie Calle, it’s cheeky and fun (like following a stranger around for a few days, i.e.).

]]> By: ben http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53853 ben Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:17:49 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53853 the word 'conceptual' placed before the word 'photography' ought in theory to suggest that there is a 'concept' in the 'photograph'. what it normally means is that the photograph is a bunch of arse and the 'photographer' has written some wordy heap of bollocks to go with it. and everyone falls all over it because they're too proud to admit that they're not exactly sure what the 'conceptual photographer' is really going on about... the word ‘conceptual’ placed before the word ‘photography’ ought in theory to suggest that there is a ‘concept’ in the ‘photograph’.

what it normally means is that the photograph is a bunch of arse and the ‘photographer’ has written some wordy heap of bollocks to go with it.

and everyone falls all over it because they’re too proud to admit that they’re not exactly sure what the ‘conceptual photographer’ is really going on about…

]]> By: david adam edelstein http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53695 david adam edelstein Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:54:52 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53695 Back again to slag off conceptual photographers more verbosely. I think what annoys me most is that they all violate the dictum of "show, don't tell", which is important in written work, but PARAMOUNT in a visual medium. Don't tell me "oh, this represents this and such" -- show me in the damn photo. Even Stieglitz was clear that his Equivalents were only equivalents of emotions <i>inside his own head</i>. I'm thinking especially about Uta Barth, here: "I will take a picture of a window, and then another picture of the same window from slightly to the left. This represents BLAH BLAH BLAH". Back again to slag off conceptual photographers more verbosely. I think what annoys me most is that they all violate the dictum of “show, don’t tell”, which is important in written work, but PARAMOUNT in a visual medium. Don’t tell me “oh, this represents this and such” — show me in the damn photo. Even Stieglitz was clear that his Equivalents were only equivalents of emotions inside his own head.

I’m thinking especially about Uta Barth, here: “I will take a picture of a window, and then another picture of the same window from slightly to the left. This represents BLAH BLAH BLAH”.

]]> By: at the risk of sentimentality : clusterflock http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53694 at the risk of sentimentality : clusterflock Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:30:41 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53694 [...] From an interview with photographer Joel Meyerowitz on contemporary photography. I’ve always been a photographer less interested in the academic and formal side of photography than for the feelingful side. I always opt for feeling. I think my pictures have in them–at the risk of sentimentality, which I try to avoid…nonetheless, I think people are suspicious of feeling and beauty. They’ve become sort of no-no’s in the modern, contemporary art world, and so if you make pictures that evoke some form of beauty, people are suspicious…and you see a lot of flat-footed, boring fucking photography out in the world today, that passes as conceptual or high-valued, art-world photography. I look at most of that stuff and I think, ‘these guys are boring, they have nothing to say, they’re walking around formulaicly making bands of modern life…industrial things or supermarkets….’ I don’t give a shit if it’s Gurksy or…any of the others who are playing that game. Most of that stuff bores the shit out of me. [...] [...] From an interview with photographer Joel Meyerowitz on contemporary photography. I’ve always been a photographer less interested in the academic and formal side of photography than for the feelingful side. I always opt for feeling. I think my pictures have in them–at the risk of sentimentality, which I try to avoid…nonetheless, I think people are suspicious of feeling and beauty. They’ve become sort of no-no’s in the modern, contemporary art world, and so if you make pictures that evoke some form of beauty, people are suspicious…and you see a lot of flat-footed, boring fucking photography out in the world today, that passes as conceptual or high-valued, art-world photography. I look at most of that stuff and I think, ‘these guys are boring, they have nothing to say, they’re walking around formulaicly making bands of modern life…industrial things or supermarkets….’ I don’t give a shit if it’s Gurksy or…any of the others who are playing that game. Most of that stuff bores the shit out of me. [...]

]]> By: Yan http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53645 Yan Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:56:06 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53645 Amen to that Joel! He may be bitter that Gursky sells for millions of dollars. I mean come on...people who think they are finding the subtle truths of life in a gursky pic are full of shit. Take this quote: "Gursky provides viewers with a new visual vocabulary in which to comprehend the massive changes that have been brought on through globalization and commercialism," (http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003466018) What the fuck? Say that with a straight face. I'll take a Meyerowitz photo of real humans close up and personal over a gursky abstraction any day. Amen to that Joel! He may be bitter that Gursky sells for millions of dollars. I mean come on…people who think they are finding the subtle truths of life in a gursky pic are full of shit. Take this quote:

“Gursky provides viewers with a new visual vocabulary in which to comprehend the massive changes that have been brought on through globalization and commercialism,” (http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003466018)

What the fuck? Say that with a straight face.

I’ll take a Meyerowitz photo of real humans close up and personal over a gursky abstraction any day.

]]> By: david adam edelstein http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53644 david adam edelstein Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:32:49 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53644 Hell yes. Go Joel. Hell yes. Go Joel.

]]> By: hugo http://2point8.whileseated.org/2008/04/10/joel-meyerowitz-for-the-win/comment-page-1/#comment-53633 hugo Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:05:10 +0000 http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=345#comment-53633 here here here here

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